I was sat at the airport the other week with very little to do.
I turned on my 13 and a half month old (that’s one and half months out of warranty I believe, around 45 days) MacBook Pro , that I love and has been working perfectly since I purchased it and I couldn’t type in my password when it came to logging in to OSX.
‘No problem’ I thought, ‘a simple reastart should fix this’.
Hmm. Not so. On restart this time, I realised that th Trackpad wasn’t working also.
‘One last try, booting into Windows instead’ was my next thought. Only, holding down the Alt key wasn’t bringing up the boot loader menu!
Suddenly I had a lot to do
- Find an Internet booth at the airport to check for known issues
- Find a local Apple dealership that would be helpful and fix my laptop before I wanted to turn it back on again.
- Write an angry letter to Steve Jobs (Get well soon Steve) about how I felt my two year old loyalty to Apple as a brand had been taken for granted, by providing me with equipment that lasted less time than the reasoning behind me spending £1,500 on the new notebook did with my Bank Manager.
- Decide what I would buy instead of the Mac Pro I had been pricing up for £3500 just that week.
- Wonder how my life would work whilst my Macbook Pro keyboard didn’t.
Blimey, I was busy.
After a flight home fraught with concern, a few minutes ignoring my girlfriend when I arrived home and the meal she cooked ‘because my laptop is broken’ I calmed down and took out the battery.
The problem
Anyway, what I found was that there are two small ribbon cables just under the battery in my MacBook Pro (Revision :3,1). The darker orange / brown cable was the one causing trouble.
To discover this I:
- Booted into OSX with a USB keyboard and mouse
- Plugged in the power cable
- Removed the battery
- Whilst pressing the caps lock key on continuously (on the laptop keyboard), I gently pressed the ribbon cable.
Although there was no visual signs of a problem, it seemed as though the ribbon cable had heated up too much and become warped. When pressed down the keyboard functioned perfectly.
The Repair Centre
So, I started looking for a company to repair my Macbook and, I found a local Apple repair center who, after hassling them without any response on a Saturday, fair enough on the weekend I guess, responded at 9.15 on Monday morning, with a price.
I’ll be honest, I wasn’t happy about the £250 price tag, ‘because the whole keyboard housing was going to have to be replaced’, which I suspect was Apple, not Amsys’ reasoning, but the response time was the best I could have expected. Well done Amsys.
My (temporary) Fix
Not getting a response until I was back in another country on Monday morning did however leave me with a weekend to work out my own fix.
Before you try this, it is temporary and I’d like my MacBook Pro to be fully functional without the use of Sellotape (Scotch tape, whatever) at some point, as I’m sure you would. I take no responsibility for burnt laps, smoking MacBooks or the smell of burning glue or any other associated issues the fix might cause.
- Get a small piece of sticky tape and roll it up
- With the power on, battery out and machine on:
- Place the Sticky tape onto the ribbon cable whilst pressing the caps lock key to identify that the keyboard is working
- Close the screen and turn over your mack book.
- Replace the battery so that it presses on the sticky tape and ribbon cable
This worked for me, but did take a few attempts, and it is still working after three weeks!
Let me know if you’ve had the same issue please, or if you know of an alternative fix or repair centre!
January 29, 2009 at 11:07 pm
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February 17, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I don’t believe it, you are a flipping genius my boy… for months i’ve been messing around with a USB keyboard and mouse plugged, scouring the forums, trying to reinstall firmware updates, all in vain… have just played with that cable and that’s exactly the problem!!!! Stuck a bit of rubber to the back of my battery inline with the cable to maintain pressure and it’s fixed!!!!
If i had a hat i’d take it off!! Many thanks!!!!!!!
March 9, 2009 at 11:32 pm
works for me too
Now i just need to book it in with apple care to get it properly fixed. It even fixed my dodgy ‘o’ . Nice work!
April 15, 2009 at 12:01 am
IT WORKED! it really worked thank you so so much.
April 22, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I’m having the same problem with a MacBook Pro that I bought at the same time. I’m going to try your suggestion. Wish me luck!
April 23, 2009 at 7:38 pm
THANK YOU! This worked for me, I was having this exact problem and was dreading carrying around an external mouse/keyboard with me until I had the resources/time to get this fixed.
I’ll update when I get it fixed for good.
May 8, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Again, many thanks for this. Honestly, a computer should not be able to mechanically destroy itself. At least, not if it’s not been modified.
May 13, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I also had this problem. Had to bend the whole chassis to “wake” the keyboard, only to have it die after a while, having to bend it again. I first thought the problem was where the orange ribbon cable attaches to the mother board. So I opened it up, made sure all cables was firmly connected but without any noticeable improvement. Your trick fixed the problem for me but I’m afraid it won’t last. Will it break again in a while when the cable has “get used” to its new position while the heat keeps weakening it?
May 13, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Hi Johan,
This seems like a fairly common problem and an unusual design flaw from Apple.
The fix mentioned worked for me all the way until I got my mac repaired by my local repair centre – for £300!!
I’d be tempted to try it and leave it to see how it goes!
June 3, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Same problem, except the tape fix didn’t work for me. My warrranty had expired two months before I noticed my keypad wasn’t working…….what a rip.
June 14, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Okej. So I woke up yesterday to find that my keyboard once again stopped responding. I messed around with the ribbon cable without any luck. I finally went to my local Apple store and bought an alu keyboard making my dear laptop just an ordinary desktop computer. Been given the price tag ~ €390 at my local repair centre I went to try my luck on eBay. I’m now checking eBay regularily for the Apple part 922-8026 (for A1226, 2,2Ghz MBP15″ Santa Rosa). It looks like you can get them for $75-150 at best…
I’m thinking of ordering two – who knows how long it will take to burn the next ribbon cable?
July 16, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I agree, I think you are a genius. When you read though the chat rooms/blogs it’s clear that several others have had the same problem- but did not know it was the cable. I wondering, you know those silicone pot holders? The square ones you lay down on the table? Can you cut a small section from there, which would support the cable and be a heat resistant buffer between the battery and the cable? Or would it be too thick?
July 17, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I had the same problem, I knew it was from that cable because every time I used to unplug and plug back the battery it would work for a couple of minutes.
So I got something to stick that brown thing and after couple of days it just didn’t work no more. I have to be very lucky to get this thing stuck and working for couple of hours and after a while it just stops back.
Now comes the fun part. As you can see from my English I am not from any country which might have an Apple Centre. I live in a country which is considered be a terrorist supporter unfortunately “Syria”, thanks to the US. And though I cant get my Mac Book Pro fixed in an Apple Centre and Though I was hopping any one can give me any suggestions. I do know how to work electronics so if some one can tell me what to do, I will do it my self
Thanks again everybody for your help in advanced…
July 27, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Cant believe that worked!!!! that you so much man!!!
July 29, 2009 at 12:28 am
* Design Flaw! Broken Track Pad
Just got back from the Apple store. My MacBook Pro has a cracked track pad inside of 1 week from purchase. Now, I can make an appointment in a couple of days so they can let me know how much it will cost to get it fixed @#$%*&! Simply, someone picked up the light weight laptop with one hand, placing their thumb on top of the middle of the frame. Unfortunately, Apple left only 1/4 inch of frame along the front edge. Handling the laptop near the track pad risks pressure on the edge of the pad, causing a perfect crescent crack. Reading blogs, normal usage cracks them, too. Apple designed the track pad to be clicked down, yet makes it incredibly FRAGILE.
R & D needs to stop patting each other on the back and get back to the drawing board.
Pay them to fix it?? They owe me an apology for rushing this one to market.
August 12, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Hello all…
it happen to me same thing for the second time in this month… Cold sweat has got me… I am pore and starving artist and I invested 08/2007 in to a Mac-Book Pro believing in a quality… last week I have to buy a new Power cord £58 but I can’t afford an extra keyboard… the manager at apple shop in Regent St. UK just smiled and said: “everything brakes down with a time, even a car”…
I understood her answer as: – “Just buy the @&?:£ cable and !%*£ OFF…
I feel being ripped off by Mac!…
is there any cheaper way getting external keyboard??? for example:
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is it possible in any way to use external PC Keyboard ???
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August 12, 2009 at 6:06 pm
if its a usb keyboard you should be able to plug it in, no worries.
August 12, 2009 at 4:59 pm
you may find this site interesting…
http://my.simmons.edu/services/technology/helpdesk/pdf/OSX-onscreen-keyboard.pdf
the only question is: _ How to display this keyboard for log-in?
August 29, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Kudos to you! Your analysis is spot-on. Between your writeup and you being #2 for “macbook pro keyboard not working”, I found the cause of the problem within 30s of it happening the first time. Aren’t the internets great?
September 10, 2009 at 10:38 am
Update:
So after a couple of months using my MBP as a stationary desktop with an external keyboard I finally got my insurance company to accept the repair cost. So I went down to the AAP and told them I accepted the €390 price for a new top case. Got the thing back yesterday after two weeks and it works perfectly with a brand new fresh looking top case (although with my old keypad, which I assume they just transfer from the old case to the new one). Since nobody seem to know what’s causing the problem with the ribbon cable I started thinking of ways to prevent it from happening again. My first solution is to simply tripple fold a small piece of paper and put right beside the ribbon cable, between the aluminium bottom and the battery, to release it from the pressure from the battery, and possibly give it a bit of air flow if heat is causing the problem.
September 17, 2009 at 10:06 pm
You are the man!!! No more problems with my keyboard. It just goes to show you that everything can be fixed with tape.
September 29, 2009 at 5:35 am
I’ve tried this 6 months ago.. it worked fine..but intermittent in the later part.. then… recently i have been having nightmares with my monitor, as it fails to light up..
apparently, the monitor connect may get loose after multiple times of applying pressure on the keyboard ribbons..
i wish i could start my laptop without having to dance into a technique before pressing the power button.
October 20, 2009 at 8:36 am
Have the same problem few days ago, so before reading ur post, I’ve taken my MBP (2007, Santa Rose, A1226) apart to see what’s wrong with it.
Pressing down the ribbon works, but later on didn’t work anymore, probably the cable has become very weak in the first place, then become more borken after I applied pressure on it.
Now I tried so many place to get a cable replacement (because I don’t think Keyboard and Mouse pad have problem, and that will cost me so much to replace), but no luck find the ribbon cable connector!
Replacing the whole top case cost me a price of a Netbook, not replacing it make me giving up a 2 year old epensive device!!!
Help!!!
October 30, 2009 at 2:22 am
After weeks of thinking I’d solved the problem – opening and closing the cover, software and hardware updates, buying OSX 10.6, without any consistent results I thought I was finally going to have to turn my macbook over to the IT folks (who all hate Macs) – this was an instant fix.
Many thanks
November 3, 2009 at 4:05 am
thanks alot……..obviously your years of blue peter viewing paid off
Thanks
November 7, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Son of a gun. I’m flying to India in a few hours and this problem came up yesterday. All the software hacks regarding Hibernate Modes and other stuff had zero effect. I find your article, press down on the little bubble in that cable right where you said and hey presto – keyboard and trackpad are back and functioning again. You rock, my internet friend.
December 5, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Congratulations! It works, I had the same problem, but in my case, I had the same problem in OS X and in Windows XP too, now I go to see if in Windows XP works too.
Many thanks and Happy New Year from Italy
December 7, 2009 at 9:40 am
You my friend are a lifesaver. I use my mac for work and play 12 hours a day and I was THIS close to having to buy a new macbook pro (i did buy a new external keyboard though 2hours before i read your post though….).
I modified your fix a little:
- used a bit of namecard paper, folded it into 2
- Stuck it onto some scotch tape
- Stuck the whole thing onto the ribbon
The idea is to use the mac battery to press down onto the added thickness from the scotch tape and namecard, thereby forcing down the ribbon.
Thank you so much for your post and Merry Christmas.
December 20, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Thanks very much for this tip. Saved me a lot of time indeed! I suspected a firmware problem, but this saved me even shutting down – just popped the battery out while on mains charge, pressed the ribbon in and suddenly keyboard, trackpad and button all work again. Just as well, as I’m working on-site with a client tomorrow.
Thanks again! K
December 27, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I was wondering, if I use an external keyboard, will I still be able to log in without my actual keyboard working? Or will the keyboard not work before log in?
December 28, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I’m not sure exactly what you mean but a lot of people who’ve been commenting on this post use a USB keyboard when their keyboard packs up!
December 27, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Thank you so much! This worked perfectly on my 21-month-old black MacBook.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Denise T.
December 27, 2009 at 11:16 pm
This really works… thanks for the tip. Saved me a trip to the Apple store. Had to do it a couple of times to get the correct position and thickness but don’t give up on the first try.
Thanks again, Mike